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1) Analyze your first, immediate reaction.
2) Then, as a separate process, ask yourself the reason for this requirement.
3) Write your comment. You can skip n. 1 if you are not comfortable disclosing your first reaction. If you are, go ahead and answer. Everybody must address n. 2.
GUIDELINES FOR ALL BLOG COMMENTS:
GUIDELINES FOR ALL BLOG COMMENTS:
- Full, complete sentences. You are not sending a text or chatting on FB.
- Accuracy in spelling, grammar, syntax, punctuation.
- Civility.
- Comments are conversations with your classmates. Make sure THEY understand what you are trying to say.
- Do not address your comments to me. You are communicating with the rest of the class.
I actually thought it was rather amusing to read the exchanges. It was sort of like watching a car accident in slow motion. The student obviously can’t follow directions and the professor is obviously not going to tolerate it. The professor has short, snappy answers a result of the frustration of the student (most likely multiple students) who are unable to follow simple directions. In the end Jane can’t figure out the directions, is frustrated with the professor for not letting her break the rules, finally resulting in a sarcastic note that makes Jane look like a jerk. At the end of the day the professor is the winner because it only took her two emails to weed out an entitled student who can’t follow simple directions, saving the professor from a semester of wasting time with this troublemaker.
ReplyDeleteThe reason for this requirement is to demonstrate that the full name requirement for an email is not that hard and will not be adjusted to fit individual needs. It is a simple requirement and students should be able to adhere to this policy.
n1. I agree with Evan, in that right from the first message I knew that this would not end well for the student. With each passing message and response, I got the sense that the student was further digging her own grave, and with the culmination of the dialogue she managed to seal it. There were clear rules and guidelines made readily available, and the fact that the student disregarded them time and time again and then attempted to support her position was pretty funny, to be honest.
ReplyDeleten2. I feel that a requirement such as this was put into play exactly for the reason listed above. If the student could not follow a rule as simple and direct as creating a professional email address, then there is no telling how she would react (or a lack thereof) to the assignments given throughout the semester. Also, a policy such as this drives home the message that elements of the class will not be tailored to that of the individual student, as Jane doe wanted, and this in turn creates equality in the course for all. This is ultimately a way to tell if the class is, in truth, right for the student, and in the case of Jane Doe, it proved to not be so.
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DeleteI too, knew the way this email exchange would end. The issue this student faced was not reading carefully the email policy. It stated " insert # & *% between first and last name" as well as "adding didgets" to help validate Jane Doe's specific account.
DeleteThe reason for this requirement is to help prepare you for using a professional email address that may be used in your career path. This requirement in regards to this class, is so that Professor Carasi may correctly identify each student among all the others he happens to be teaching.
Just like Evan, I found this conversation entertaining and actually laughed out loud when the student said "I am clearly not welcomed in your class". The professor clearly stated what he was looking for in the Email requirements. If google did not have any emails available with her full name, why could the student not use ymail or yahoo or even AOL? The reason for this requirement is to make it easier for the professor when answering emails. As a college professor I am sure they are receiving more than 20 emails a day from students. Having an email with your full name will allow the professor to identify who you are quickly and easier.
ReplyDeleteMuch like Evan, Brandon, and Nina, I found the exchange very amusing. I don't really understand what was so difficult about following the email requirement. The professor gave clear instructions that are not hard to follow. Even if google was unavailable, like Nina said, there are so many other possible email providers to choose from. There is a clear reason for this requirement, it makes it easy for the professor to know who he is communicating with before even opening the email, saving time and confusion of having to guess who he is speaking to, since I'm sure he has many students emailing him daily.
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ReplyDeleteTo me it seemed like the student wasn't a problem solver. With the internet and google at our hands, we can search for any answers online. With a click of a button the student could've asked Siri- "How do I make an email with my full name?"
If the student isn't tech savvy, I would still find it unacceptable as a professor because all Brooklyn College students are provided with an email address that is secure and displays our full name.
Also the student did not take into consideration the importance of this requirement. This is beneficial to the student and the professor. In order for the professor to not confuse you with another student that has your same first name it is wise to display your last name. Professors have numerous students to keep records of. This requirement is easier to keep track of records for your benefit and the professors.
n2. The issue that the student came across has a fairly simple resolution. Had she read the original requirements, she would have seen that it would have been valid for her to put a number in front of her full name, as I have. These requirements are important because there are many professors that have many students, so it's not a bad policy to have students make an email with their first and last name, which is easy to reference.
ReplyDeleteI simply laughed at the exchanges going on. Such a simple requirement and so easy to do and the student gives the professor a hard time??? There are so many sites to choose an email address from. There is no excuse for a name not being available. Sometimes you just have to add numbers or symbols if the name by itself isn't available.
ReplyDeleteMany professors have many students, so this policy is most useful and enables professors to easily identify the student emailing them.
As I was reading this situation, I found humor in it, as if I was reading a funny story line. I did not think of it as a real life occurance because I could not imagine a student behaving this immature while having a conversation with a college professor. Maybe it is my age and me being older, but I do not understand how someone would not understand how making an email adress using their full name was the requirement set by the professor and it really is not that hard to do. It would actually benefit the student in the long run to have an email account using their full name.
ReplyDeleteI think this requirement is set because it is easier for the professor to know who is emailing them considering they have so many students they converse with every semester. I also think this requirement is beneficial to the student because having an email using our full names will help us when we start applying to jobs after we graduate. Having an email address using our names will be a better email address to use on resumes and have employers contact you that ways. It has a more professional look to it rather than our personal email addresses that often include nicknames, and special dates.
My immediate reaction was being shocked. It seems as though the student responded quick, and defensive versus trying their best to comply with what was asked even if it took a little longer to do. It is not impossible, and they made the situation awkward, especially with the last email sent.
ReplyDeleteI think that the reason for this process is because it is professional, as college students working towards professional careers, a professional means of communication says a lot about a person. You can not email an employer through an email such as "sassykate73@hotmail.com" and expect to be taken serious. I understand we have all gone through such a phase at some point in our lives. But that's just it, we want to move foward and this could be seen as a "right of passage" to adulthood.
I was shocked to say the least. I think at this age, (18-mid twenties) it should be common sense to have a professional email username. The times of AIM names are over, we are grown adults and should have appropriate usernames for professional/personal accounts. If I was this student, I would be embarrassed to be so rude to a professor. I understand not having a username available, but there are many different ways to make your name fit into an email. For example, my email is: kaitlyn.worth@yahoo.com because kaitlynworth@yahoo.com was not available.
ReplyDeleteFirst of all, I realized that my email is definitely not accepted when I thought it might have been so I'm going to fix that. I thought the exchange was hilarious honestly. Who speaks to a professor like that? If she was going to drop the class anyway, why did she need to go the extra step of creating an obnoxious response like that. This person obviously lacks respect and professionalism. The truth is in the title; in our society, people have to follow certain requirements and formalities to gain respect and move up, no matter how much it angers them, for whatever reason. I think that a more professional email will help much more than hurt.
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ReplyDeleteThis is amusing I agree with everyone. The reasoning for having a professional e-mail is for ease of communication and respect. Refusal to follow the guidelines of the course is obviously going to result in the student having a hard time in said course. Having a professional e-mail is also something that should have been done before graduating High School. The manner in which the student responded was not appropriate. However I am going to go against the grain here and say that not everyone interprets things the same way, even if they are printed in black and white unfortunately. The student could have had a difficult time understanding what exactly was necessary, and I know that may be hard to believe. Now while I understand that college is not the place for hand-holding, and that all necessary information may be throughout the syllabus, and that the student could have just as easily dropped the course instead of sending the last e-mail, a slightly more thought out response to the student may have also resolved the issue instead of the short quick responses
ReplyDeleteWow! I feel slightly bad for the student, but I have always understood the importance of a professional email with both first and last name. it is essential, especially for work! Sadly, it is unfortunate that things ended the way they did for the student. The reality is that college is not a place to be babied or a place where you can get away with doing partial work. Just like a job, you are required to follow rules and judged on all behaviors/ actions. We are adults, not children. At times that goes ignored.
ReplyDeleteHonestly, I was not too surprised at first when I read the emails. Having a proper email address that explicitly states your name is essential in the professional world. It is critical for formal emails between professors and students as well as essential in the workforce. Being able to follow procedures relating to emails and assignments is important so that our instructor can see that we are responsible individuals and are capable of completing any task that is asked of us. This individual could have found any way of incorporating his or her name into an email address since accounts tend to give us options in including our names. The way they replied to the instructor shows that the student did not put any effort into completing a simple task that takes a few minutes to set up. This might show in the future that they will not be able to complete an assignment or complain about the instructions given if penalized. As adults, we must be as formal as possible so that instructors and employers perceive us as responsible individuals.
ReplyDeleteLike the majority of the class, I found the exchanges between the student and the professor to be very entertaining. I feel as if the student should have just simply made a new email account with his/her name included within it. The process takes about 2 minutes and it would have prevented the "back and forth" exchanges. After all, having your first and last name included in your email makes your professors life a lot easier. Having a proper email nowadays is essential and people without one are not to be taken seriously. Furthermore, like Nina, I also laughed out loud when the student replied "I am clearly not welcomed in your class."
ReplyDeleteThe student didn't try hard enough to make an email address that fulfills the requirements. Sometimes you just have to put a bit more effort into things. Even to things that seems very simple. The point of putting both names is to avoid mixing students up. There can be students who have the first name and to avoid any confusion with students.
ReplyDeleteLike most of the others in the class, I was a bit amused by the exchange as well. We are always so busy that these days we often do not take the time to actually fully read and understand certain communications. It is my belief that this requirement is set up this way to make grading and identifying student work easier on the professor. I also think that it is a good lesson in paying attention!
ReplyDeleteWhile reading that conversation, I thought that the student was the one who had the attitude problem. Aside from that, I felt as if she didn't read the email policy or that she is just bad at following steps and rules. The email policy was very detailed, so why didn't she understand? Her name isn't even that long so her name would have fit in the email. If her choices wasn't available, all she had to do was add in a few more numbers or change the order of the numbers. I think that having a professional email will help you in the long run with not only college work but when we have outside works too. Its sort of a way to prepare you for the future
ReplyDelete“Oh, my goodness!” Is my first reaction to this conversation. Honestly, it isn’t that hard to create an email with your full name because you can add numbers to the end if someone else has your name. You gave simple directions and replied to let us know if anything was wrong to fix it. There was no respect during this interaction. I mean if a professor is giving you a requirement in a course it should be non-negotiable. I believe the simple reason for this requirement is for 1. The blog, when we comment in the discussions, you need a Gmail, it would be convenient for the classmates to see who is posting what. 2. Is to contact you and to easily see who is emailing you. It is professional to have an email like this anyway, I am going to use this email going forward.
ReplyDeleteN2. I think this requirements are given to help students for their future. These requirements help them to get use to email policies that are work in working environment. And also it show how students serious about his or her class, because if student simply can not follow the requirement in the beginning of course the is no chance that he can pass this course.
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